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Showing posts with label property taxes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label property taxes. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 26, 2011

The Friday Podcast: Do The Rich Flee High-Tax States? Planet Money NPR

Click Title for Original PodCast !

Upd 4/29:  This story must have generated so much interest that NPR put up a 5 minute version on Morning Edition ... as you can imagine it is not totally redundant!

Here is the link to listen -
Studies: Rich Don't Flee High-Tax States - NPR - Morning Edition

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Chris Christie at best exaggerated (if not worse) ... he misrepresented a study ... and the answer to the question above, poised by Planet Money, is NO!  The program is about 17 min but worth listening to, especially now that all kinds of polls suggest that many Americans think some people's taxes should be higher.

From the source -
Three Studies!
  1. Boston College study cited by NJ Gov. Chris Christie.
  2. How taxes influence migration patterns in New England.
  3. How a New Jersey tax hike affected millionaires.
Click the Title to go and listen!  Save up some thoughts for the next Town Hall Listening Meeting you go to!


The Friday Podcast: Do The Rich Flee High-Tax States? Planet Money #NPR - NO #Taxes #47% vs #elites #1%

Thursday, April 21, 2011

LFB: You can't know what you don't know - Walker Budget or Repair - channeling Don Rumsfeld!

Clicking the title will take you to a previous blog entry!

Do you have the numbers or not?  This kind of data can easily exist in a spreadsheet (or several) ... not a big deal!  So either gross numbers at the statewide level were used ... which is really kind of worthless or the data was aggregated upwards from political divisions (towns, municipalities, counties, etc.)!  Which is it?

Based on the statements in the letter (cited below and previously) the detailed data was used (my guess)!  But ... the same letter discredits that methodology as widely variable!  So again which is it and where is it ... make it public at the detailed level?

The figures in Table 1 are estimates for the state as a whole. The tax impacts in individual municipalities would vary considerably from these figures.
You cannot know the "would vary considerably" unless you have the detail (or you are guessing).  The quote above, LFB 4/15 Web Site: SUBJECT: Property Tax Estimates Under Senate Bill 27 and Assembly Bill 40 , is from the above source and the final sentence from that five page document!  The LFB does the best analysis possible but the detail needs to be available and evaluated!

Why is this important?  It is important because "local" officials are in the best position to evaluate the estimates and tell you how good or how bad the numbers are as estimates or reality.  Second the data as presented in the aggregate suggests very manageable changes in property taxes but this issue has become so complex in sorting out "budget repair" from "budget" we need to know the difference!

These statements have been made with all due respect for the fine work I personally feel the LFB does.  I have considered and reconsidered every word and still believe the "details" need to be public!  Opinions may change and votes may change based on the "local" insight yet to be contributed.

After all the Joint Committee on Finance may move aggressively to get the budget to the floor shortly after April 26th.  Has there really been any kind of fair consideration!?
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Footnote: circa 1984 the LFB began making Personal Computers available to analysts for dealing with the difficult problems of coming up with "fiscal analysis" of various legislation.  The software "de rigueur" was VisiCalc - long since gone from the scene! How do you think I know this?

Friday, April 15, 2011

Upd. - LFB - StateWide Estimates are built from "locality numbers" - pls provide!!

The Friday night ... nobody is paying attention game!!!

Update:  I would like to know the methodology and no I am not casting doubt but assumptions do matter!  It also matters whether (and at what level) data is aggregated upwards since situations vary from county to county and locality to locality.  4/16

Walker budget would increase property taxes slightly, projection says - AP

From WSJ ... they do not provide reference to LFB ... Click title ... appears to be pdf file ... but just summary ...from LFB!  Somebody ran the details ... wrong or right as they may be ... and if they have not they can ... and if they have not then statewide numbers are really meaningless ... you just cannot claim they vary widely and not know or you know!!!
A new projection shows that property taxes statewide would increase slightly over the next two years under Gov. Scott Walker's budget.
The Legislative Fiscal Bureau analysis released Friday projected a 0.8 percent tax bill increase on the bills that arrive in December and a 0.4 percent increase in 2012. Those estimates are based on a median valued home of around $158,000. ...
 Walker attempts to hold property tax increases in check with his budget proposal that largely prevents local taxing authorities from raising property taxes to cover cuts in aid.